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The personal problems interview     67


        ALEX: Well, okay. This isn’t really about getting promoted. Things aren’t too good at
           home…
        9 HARRY: What’s wrong?
        ALEX: I don’t talk about it much, but my wife left me some time ago. She’s got someone
           else…
        10 HARRY: Good heavens, I’m sorry. How long has this been going on?
        ALEX: Well, things hadn’t been good for some time. About half a year ago she met this
           bloke and two months ago she moved in with her sister, because she wants to think
           things through. She doesn’t know if she wants to stay with me or with that bloke. I
           feel so powerless.
        11 HARRY: Hmm, I can imagine, you’re just waiting to see what they come up with.
        ALEX: Right. And I might as well tell you the rest of it: because I don’t know what to
           do, I often go to the pub at night and I don’t stop at three beers, if you know what I
           mean. Anyway, because of all this I’m not doing well at work and I know I’m too hard
           on the waiters but before I know it I’ve done it again…

        Comparing the beginnings of the two fragments, we notice a difference right away. In the
        first fragment Harry, after a short introduction, immediately starts asking questions like a
        detective. In the second fragment he also tells Alex  why  he  has  invited  him  for  this
        conversation, but he includes a couple of  concrete examples, and he makes his own
        feelings clear: ‘I’m worried about it…’ This is, however, only half the basis needed for a
        cooperative relation. In order to establish the other half, Harry asks Alex explicitly if he
        wants to talk. Thus Alex is given the role of equal partner. You could say a contract is
        closed in which both parties agree to the conversation. In the second fragment we see
        Alex’s hesitant reaction. This might be caused by Harry’s last question: ‘What do you
        think?’ We do see him admit to the problem. Harry takes up Alex’s hesitation and by
        acknowledging it (reaction 2) he shows understanding. But he does more than that. First
        he isolates this conversation from the rest of the company (‘anything said here is just
        between you and me’). This is of importance to the confidentiality of the conversation. It
        is important to Alex, who might think that his story could spread through the company
        like wildfire. Then Harry tells Alex that he need not say anything unless he wants to. This
        makes Alex feel more at ease. Contrary to the events in the first fragment, there’s no
        pressure on Alex. In the course of fragment 2 we see the positive effect this often has. If
        people do not try to force something out of you, but give you a chance to decide for
        yourself, you are often more willing to talk.
           Prior to giving Alex a chance to  talk,  Harry  makes a few things  clear. First he
        mentions the amount of time available for this conversation. Of course there’s always the
        possibility for further conversation should this be necessary. Then he explains to Alex
        what kind of conversation he would like this to be: ‘I would like to see if we could find
        out together what the problem is. Then we’ll see if we can come up with some solutions.
        What do you think?’ Thus the basic outline of the conversation is marked. Alex knows
        what he’s in for and is given another opportunity to make up his mind. We realize that
        not everybody will lose their inhibitions and open up after such a beginning,  but  the
        chance of cooperation increases if the other person feels he has an equal say in the matter
        and is taken seriously.
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