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got to high school I was in the States and at that time in the  1960s it was the time of the  French New-
                                         Wave and Europe was where all the great movies were coming from. I think this generation in Europe
                                         has  forgotten  that.  I  don't  think  they  realise  that  when  they  get  defensive  about  movies  in  Europe,
                                         there was a time when movies were way cooler because they were in  Italian or French and American
                                         movies couldn't be as interesting or as important because they were from the States.
                                           I  think  this  is  something  that  during  the  1970s  and  1980s  Europe  forgot  and  thought  'va-
                                        cant compete with American movies therefore we must have all these economic rules and defences
                                         in  place  because  we  are  really  not good  enough  to  compete'.  I  think  they  are  ignoring  history in
                                         that  case.  I  took  a  lot  of influence  from  the  New  Wave,  like  most  Americans  of my  generation.
                                        I  watched  everything  from  L'Année  Dernière  à  Marienbad,  (Last  Year  at  Marionbad,  1961)  and
                                        Fellini  to Truffaut and  Godard.  I  mean  these  movies were what were  really  important during that
                                        period.
                                           Going back to notions of the fantastic, what is so interesting about European cinema is that it transcends
                                        the art and commercial divide. You mentioned obvious art movie directors but there's also Spanish directors,
                                        Italian directors who were doing stuff that was experimental as well as genre-based.
                                           Well  I  think we  certainly have to  include  directors  such  as  Dario Argento,  whose work is  both
                                        fantastical  and pretty arty.  I  also like the work of the  Italian  horror director Mario  Bava. When  I  look
                                        at it,  I didn't  realise  that when  I was  going crazy for  the  Roger Corman/Poe  movies,  I'd never seen
                                        movies like Maschera del Demonio (Mask of Satan, 1960) or La Casa Dell Esorcismo (House of Exorcism
                                        aka Lisa and the Devil,  1973). Well,  I  felt  a little  embarrassed after  I  saw Bava's  films  and  I  realised
                                        that Corman was remaking European genre movies in American syntax and that's what I loved. There
                                        was a whole period during the 1950s and  1960s when all you had to do was go and look at European
                                        movies and come back and make one, because Americans would never go and see them!
                                           A n d of course if we include Britain in Europe, which  normally in America we don't, then I would
                                        certainly have  to say that  the company that  recreated  the  Frankenstein  myth and  the vampire  myth,
                                        and  Dracula  myth,  was  Hammer.  Hammer  took  the  dead  Universal  series  of monsters  and  they
                                        gave  it colour,  sex  and  blood - and this was  the scariest stuff out  in  the  1950s.  Is  that an  influence?
                                        Is  it  European?  I  don't  know what you  call  it.  Sometimes  I  have  a  hard  time  putting  nationality to
                                        a  lot  of movie  influences  because  sometimes  I  think  they  really  transcend  it.  I  think  in  Europe  the
                                        audiences  are  more  accepting  of genre  films  being  movies  than  in  America.  In  America,  this  is a
                                        cliché,  but everything is  reduced to money, everything is  reduced to a value,  quantifiable  in  dollars.
                                        And  that's  not the case  in  Europe. That's  maybe the  most significant cultural  difference between  the
                                        continents.
                                           It seems to me that the key feature of horror is almost disrespectability. As soon as you make it big budget
                                        you make it safe — would you agree?
                                           Yes.  It's  a  little  like  comedy.  A  comedy  works  better  with  less  production,  because  there's
                                        something  about  comedy  that  depends  upon  timing  and  indefinable  elements,  almost  improvised
                                        elements.  With  horror  it  tends  to  be  the  same  way  that  sometimes  an  over-produced  horror  movie
                                        ceases to work.
                                           What horror does successfully, and your films do in particular, is to draw up certain repressed material,
                                        things that society would prefer to ignore. Would you agree?


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