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              Jen: I have many years of teaching in place-conscious ways; however, I have just
            recently  come  across  place-based  education  as  a  theoretical  (for  research)  and
            pedagogical (for teaching) framework. Intellectually, it has been exciting for me to
            pursue this strand of research and pedagogy because it allows me to merge my interests
            in science teaching and learning, informal science education, and most importantly,
            sociocultural considerations of how people learn and connect with places.



            Defining “Place”


            Jen:  Karrow  and  Fazio’s  description  of  project  WormWatch  reminds  me  of  the
            “placelessness” inherent in many science education initiatives. Like big box stores,
            these initiatives are designed to be enacted in any geographical school/space without
            any consideration of place. According to Karrow and Fazio, a project like WormWatch
            would be richer if the ontological realm of place was considered in the planning and
            implementation  of  the  activities.  They  discuss  Heidegger’s  notion  of  Dasein  or
            being-in-the-world in relation to care, “we are caught up in a structure of care about
            the world; we are not indifferent to it.” This makes me ask the question: What pre-
            supposes place? What are the conditions that must exist in order for place to exist
            and how is this relevant to thinking about PBE? While I agree with the authors that
            “unless the ontological realm is considered such theory remains callow,” I think we
            need to press this idea a little more – why is this the case? Are there other realms
            of place that we are not considering as well?
              Sheliza:  I am sure many would argue that there are no definitive conditions that
            “must exist in order for place to exist.” However, if we are to entertain the proposi-
            tion that Karrow and Fazio advocate for, that is the consideration of an ontological
            realm in PBE, perhaps we could assume that place comes to “exist” or “be” because
            of the relationships humans (or nature) have with it. Place is theorized as a human-
            created system of exchanges between culture and nature, or human beings and land,
            or communities and environment. If place could be theorized as a part of a social-
            exchange process, then an emphasis could be placed on how the relationships with
            context create realities, meaning, and knowledge. Is it possible that this is how place
            comes to being? Are localities or geographical and physical areas simply spaces that
            are universal or global, until direct and personal interactions award them meaning?
            Does that meaning then transform that space into a place? Discourses about place
            versus space theorize place as a locality of difference, suggesting that the uniqueness
            and personal realities of a space makes it a place. Doreen Massey stated that the
            “local” is frequently invoked as the source of differentiation such that place is pos-
            ited as one of the grounds through which identity is rooted and developed (Massey
            2004, p. 7). It seems that we must consider how people define place, since their place
            will be inextricably linked to them in intimate and personal ways, and thus how our
            students are likely to describe their place (which will have influenced their sense of
            being) when they engage in place-based approaches in their classrooms.
              Miyoun:  I agree Sheliza when you say place is inextricably linked to human beings
            in intimate and personal ways. It is essential. It happens to everyone and it happens in
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