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              Interviewer: . . . do you ever find media that actually sort of support...
                 like, say these movies, do they ever have messages that reinforce you
                 know, strong morals or. . . .
              David: Yeah, I think, that’s one of the things we try to point out, a lot of
                 them, it’s a... God, just a . . . trying to think of an example here right
                 off the top of my head, it’s like... we were watching Bug’s Life where
                 all the ants stand together and help each other, they’re happy and
                 work together, they all clean up the mess afterwards, nobody
                 complains, you know, and stuff like that and that’s something you try
                 to . . . and even on...  you know, whether it’s cartoons or anything
                 that you see, it’s like, you’ll point an article out in the paper or some-
                 thing that says, “You know, this little kid did this and this and
                 this . . .” and, you know, I look at it this way, you can find whatever
                 you want to look for. Even, you know, some people say, “The news is
                 so depressing, you know, all they have is just who died and who got
                 shot up,” whatever. But then again you can always make whatever
                 positive, whatever you’re looking for. And that’s a lot of what we do is
                 just look for the more positive type things. You know, and we’re pretty
                 choosy, it’s gonna be real hard to find good things when all you have
                 is . . . it was like, Silence of the Lambs. What was good [laughs] about
                 that show? The only funny part about that was there was . . . the
                 second one, this Hannibal one. The gentleman who plays the bad guy
                 in there, it was on the . . . I was reading this little script thing about
                 the movie that was coming out and . . . I think it was the New York
                 Times. And it was saying that that first week it opened, he did a tour
                 of the United States and every night he went to a different theater in a
                 different town and there was a particular scary part and was in the
                 theater and he would whisper that same line to the people in front of
                 him [laughs]. And they were reporting back about what had happened
                 and he was like, he says, “The only place that people did not run out
                 of the theater screaming was in LA and they turned around and they
                 go, ‘Cool dude.’ [laughs] That’s him! Hey man, can I get your auto-
                 graph?’” He said that everybody else was so into the show that they
                 just left the theater, you know. . . .
              Interviewer: So you’re saying that point is that even in something like that
                 you can sometimes find something humorous there or uplifting.
              David: But that was . . . a... yeah, that’s something that we’re trying to
                 instill in our kids is that . . . that there is good things out there and if
                 you look at the good things, or look for the good . . . that’s what you
                 need to be looking for. I mean, you can find, I was just telling you
                 about the bad things about all these shows and stuff, but, and there’s
                 good . . . in the same amount there’s as much good and things that
                 way. I’m not as, you know, as far as The Simpsons, I . . . I’m like, you
                 can find good there too if you really look hard enough. I mean, they’re
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